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Center Of Attention: Greg Or Joel?
Written by wendell maxey   
Monday, 05 October 2009 01:03

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Before the start of Portland’s inter-squad scrimmage at the Rose Garden – one that saw the Blazers Black team beat the White team, 79-70 in front of 16,752 fans – Nate McMillan sat courtside explaining how expectations are expected to rise each season.

No doubt they will.

But as expectations for the upcoming season soar, the offseason debates about who should start at center, small forward and point guard in Portland are slowly fading away. McMillan appears dead-set on sticking to his “same starting five” mantra he preached back in July, and if we learned anything about Sunday’s “Fan Fest” event at the Rose Garden, it’s that one of those debates may still be worth keeping alive.

Both Martell Webster and Travis Outlaw maintain they’re not concerned with who starts and who comes off the bench at small forward. In the meantime, Nicolas Batum believes he should start – a point validated by his 18 point outing on Sunday. Not only has his shot improved but you can tell his confidence has equally grown as Batum’s clearly coming out of his soft spoken shell.

Besides, Outlaw will likely see more minutes at power forward playing behind LaMarcus Aldridge than he’ll actually log at small forward this season. We’ve seen McMillan plug him in at the four the past two seasons and even more so now with Webster back from his foot injury. And just seeing Webster out on the floor moving with ease and shooting in rhythm after sitting out much of last season is already a success story in my book. Hopefully he won’t simply settle for that outside shot though. I’m still wondering what would have happened had Webster actually put down that dunk from near the free-throw line. Joel Przybilla would have made a poster, I know that.

For me, an aggressive Martell is a deadly Martell.

I’m still not convinced Andre Miller is kosher with coming off the bench, particularly knowing how Miller said he was the starter when he first arrived in Portland and then turned around last week and essentially backed off that stance. But even though Steve Blake – Mr. MVP of Fan Fest - sets up Aldridge and Przybilla perfectly on pick-and-rolls and his shot looks as good as ever, there is something comforting about having a bigger point guard like Miller available when Portland has to muscle-up.

Miller will pick and choose his spots; his play wasn’t overly outstanding in his first outing in front of the Blazer faithful but you can tell the guy sees the court like a quarterback in the pocket who knows he still has time even with a rush coming.

One thing is for sure: when asked during player introductions why he chose to come to Portland as a free-agent, Miller began by saying because of “the fans and the environment.” It may have been his best move of the night.

Now, even with this being an open scrimmage and the culmination of nearly the first full week of Blazers training camp, one discussion remains open for some: who should be the center of attention?

Assistance coach Bill Bayno – who spent the summer working with Greg in Columbus, Ohio – put it perfectly when he said Portland may have the best starting and back-up centers in the league with Przybilla and Oden. But who is who?

Joel doesn't care. Oden does and management and the coaching certainly appreciate the desire. But it won't change anything.

Applying McMillan’s theory, that spot goes to Joel and deservingly so. But if you base it off potential, Oden is your man. What he did on Sunday – showed off the typically turnaround hook and good hands – is just the beginning of a fresher and hungrier Greg particularly if you believe the offseason and early camp reports.

That we won’t know until Greg goes up against guys not named Przybilla, Juwan Howard or Jarron Collins. We won’t know until we fully see his face-up game, if he can stay out of foul trouble, if he moves his feet and defends, and how he works and passes out of double-teams.

That test will come all season long. But the potential is there. Probability however doesn’t always factor into a coach’s reasoning to start a player.

At least not yet.

pic via: bleacherreport

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start joel
written by contemnor, October 05, 2009
I think that the Joel is the better starter because last year Rudy was the guy who was best at getting the ball to Greg, and if Miller is coming off of the bench, that seems like another guy who is going to feed the big man.

which guy deserves the starting role? Glad i'm not the one making that call, but which guys do i want Greg sharing the court with? That ones easy..
Better player vs. better combination
written by Jason Grigsby, October 05, 2009
I think it will come down to choosing between the better player or the better combination of players. I say this because if it is simply the better player, I don't think there is any doubt you put Oden in the starting lineup.

For as much as we're talking about potential for Oden's offensive game and how he had some good offensive moves and some bad ones, we forget that he simply had offensive moves. That's something Joel can't claim.

With the exception of experience, Oden gives you everything that Joel does and more. Plus the more minutes he gets, the better he will become.

After watching last night, it solidified the my opinion. Oden should start.

The only caveat is whether or not the combination of players in the second unit is a better combo for him to play with. Regardless, I expect Oden to get the majority of the minutes which is the true measure of who is considered the better players.

P.S. Enjoyed listening to you on Dontonio Wingcast this week. Hope you find a way to continue doing what you love while earning a living.
Greg's to to be the man
written by nikolokolus, October 05, 2009
Last night was certainly not definitive, but what I saw from Greg is a player much more comfortable in his own skin and freer of mind than he's been since his days at OSU. Better than that I saw a guy who clearly put the work in that he needed to this off-season.

For my money I think Greg ought to be starting (or at least getting the majority of the minutes), even if Greg and Joel are playing each other to a standstill -- and there were times last night where Greg sure seemed to make Joel look kind of silly -- I think you give the nod to Greg, it seems to be a goal of his and to start and if that helps his confidence then so much the better for his development and his impact on the team.
"fans and the environment"
written by Kelly AuCoin, October 05, 2009
Andre the PR agent.. lol
i agree that Oden should start. 12 & 12 would be huge stats for him on the season. cripes that would make me happy! fouls aside, i cant see why he wouldnt reach that..
i am absolutely dying with anticipation for this season. thank god for the internet.. Brooklyn is completely oblivious about the Blazers. DON'T THEY KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING BACK THERE?!?
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@ contemnor
written by wmaxeyjr, October 05, 2009
yeah, i'm not sure if portland loses either way by starting one over the other. but knowing how nate is a defensive minded coach, joel still appears to odds on favorite to get the job. but i could easily see that changing at some point in the season.
@grigs
written by wmaxeyjr, October 05, 2009
hey jason....thanks for the line and your vote for greg starting is noted. think others will tend to follow your lead.

thanks also for the kind words about the podcast. it's been hectic to say the least but i have some writing gigs in the works and will continue to post here weekly, so i shouldn't be too hard to find. certainly haven't come this far to shut it down....
@ nik
written by wmaxeyjr, October 05, 2009
what's up nik.....thanks for the line. always appreciate it. see, i'm not sure if greg made joel look silly or it's simply the side effect of these two taking it easy on one another. last year before the start of the season, oden gave joel a good wack resulting in stitches for joel.....don't think anyone was out for blood this time. during the season though, well that's a different story.

but i hear you....as do others: another vote for greg.
@ mr. aucoin
written by wmaxeyjr, October 05, 2009
yo....what's up kelly....the man holding down brooklyn for the blazers. but let's be real here. i don't think bk was standing up for portland even when sebastian was here.

as for andre, i'm sure we'll hear all season long about his loner nature. not sure how that goes over on road trips knowing how close this team is but i say let the man go about his work. he's clearly strictly business.
Keep feeding us!
written by LAPDXFan, October 05, 2009
It's great to have the season starting up again and I always look forward to your insights on what's going on with the team. For the record I am going to have to agree with Martell (it matters who finishes the game not who starts).

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